Windows XP new PCs

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Windows XP new PCs

Post by kikorosa » Fri Feb 07, 2020 8:20 am

Is there a way to buy new PCs with Windows XP? I know that Windows XP is no longer updated. The latest version to retire was Windows Embedded POSready 2009, discontinued in 2019. I actually found some sites, like NIXSYS and Aventis Systems, but they are really absurd! NIXSYS offers exorbitant prices, while Aventis Systems offers only 32bit Windows XP, therefore, there is probably the famous PAE patch to make XP work over 4 GB of RAM. In addition, it offers universal configurations, such as an NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 which is fine in Windows 7, 8, 10, but certainly not in XP. The only truly beautiful and profitable site is pcpartpicker.com, but it only offers PC assemblies with the ability to purchase parts from Amazon, eBay or NewEgg and assemble them manually.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by Microft » Sat Feb 08, 2020 12:25 am

Buy a new PC and install Windows XP. You can still buy XP 32 and 64bit on eBay with working keys if you don't have a copy.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by kikorosa » Sat Feb 08, 2020 7:34 am

Yes, but not all new devices are compatible with Windows XP. For this reason I would need a site that shows me which peripherals are compatible with 64-bit Windows XP, if there are no sites directly to buy PCs with Windows XP.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by Microft » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:18 pm

Most high end PC's won't run XP, but there are still many low end machines around that will, though I don't know why you would want to. One way to get XP to work on a high end is to run XP in a Virtual Machine. But I wouldn't recommend running XP in a daily environment due to no patches or updates, same now with Windows 7, though they did get one yesterday for a wallpaper problem that showed black screens. Software and Hardware companies have stopped supporting Windows XP and their installers prevent installing to a XP System and this is now happening to Windows 7.

If it's an upgrade issue regarding Windows 10, Microsoft will allow you to upgrade to 10 for free, but I think it's only from Windows 7and 8.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by kikorosa » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:06 pm

I read that the most performing NVIDIA GPU for XP is the GTX Titan Black, while for RAM the best I could do is mount two 8 GB DDR3 blocks each. My dream PC would be a trial boot with XP, 7, 10. Today I could still safely do it, since the components compatible with XP are not very old. In addition, for Windows XP antivirus programs still support it, such as AVAST: https://www.avast.com/it-it/windows-xp-antivirus
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by Microft » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:25 pm

Yes, you can boot via many OS, though I would still recommend doing it via VM, and as the OS boots from a VM, there are no performance issues. Avast has become better, but I would always recommend Bitdefender, though you'll need an older version which will work on XP. Avast does the same and they rebrand an older version and just update the definitions.

The stats on Steam though are Windows 10 (64 bit) has 79.23% of their userbase and no-one is using the Titan. I myself have 2 PCs, one using an nVidia GTX 1660 (and you can get drivers for XP with this card) and the other with dual nVidia GTX 2080 supers. I couldn't go back to using older cards, but as with everything, there is always an end of life, both software and hardware and keeping up-to-date is always the best option if people can afford it and there will be a cut off point where everything on older systems will just stop working and you'll have no choice but to upgrade.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey ... e-to-Steam
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by Steve » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:24 pm

kikorosa wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:06 pm
I read that the most performing NVIDIA GPU for XP is the GTX Titan Black, while for RAM the best I could do is mount two 8 GB DDR3 blocks each. My dream PC would be a trial boot with XP, 7, 10. Today I could still safely do it, since the components compatible with XP are not very old. In addition, for Windows XP antivirus programs still support it, such as AVAST: https://www.avast.com/it-it/windows-xp-antivirus
Best hardware you gonna run on XP is the Titan but i heard it's more of a workstation card than gaming so keep that in mind, i7 4990K the best CPU on a platform that still runs on XP and if you planning to run 7/10 i'd highly recommend 16GB of RAM which obviously will work on XP 64bit. Just keep in my SATA drivers aren't in XP by default either.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by kikorosa » Sat Feb 08, 2020 10:30 pm

Microft wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:25 pm
Yes, you can boot via many OS, though I would still recommend doing it via VM, and as the OS boots from a VM, there are no performance issues. Avast has become better, but I would always recommend Bitdefender, though you'll need an older version which will work on XP. Avast does the same and they rebrand an older version and just update the definitions.

The stats on Steam though are Windows 10 (64 bit) has 79.23% of their userbase and no-one is using the Titan. I myself have 2 PCs, one using an nVidia GTX 1660 (and you can get drivers for XP with this card) and the other with dual nVidia GTX 2080 supers. I couldn't go back to using older cards, but as with everything, there is always an end of life, both software and hardware and keeping up-to-date is always the best option if people can afford it and there will be a cut off point where everything on older systems will just stop working and you'll have no choice but to upgrade.

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey ... e-to-Steam
Yes, a friend of mine also told me well about Bitdefender. How can I get the la 1660 drivers?
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by Microft » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:10 pm

Bitdefender has won the best antivirus for the past 6 years and in my tests and test I've seen online, it has a detection ratio of more or less 100%, Kaspersky has a 99% ratio, but Kaspersky is questionable as to whether it sends info to Russian hackers.

https://youtu.be/t_g8ZlyM2yQ

The 1660 XP drivers are the same for Windows 7 and 8 and can be downloaded here. https://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDo ... type=TITAN but only 64bit.
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Re: Windows XP new PCs

Post by kikorosa » Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:42 pm

Microft wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 11:10 pm
Bitdefender has won the best antivirus for the past 6 years and in my tests and test I've seen online, it has a detection ratio of more or less 100%, Kaspersky has a 99% ratio, but Kaspersky is questionable as to whether it sends info to Russian hackers.

https://youtu.be/t_g8ZlyM2yQ

The 1660 XP drivers are the same for Windows 7 and 8 and can be downloaded here. https://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDo ... type=TITAN but only 64bit.
I found that TITAN X is the most powerful XP GPU! Literally a fully usable in 2020! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGSlRvHDg6I
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